John Toperzer: Penguin Pentathlon: Five Guys, Bettman & Lies Could a settlement be in the offing

- brianb0422

Damn ... daaaamn ... daaaaaaaaamn

- brianb0422

This picture can't be right...they give you a butt load of fries and I only see a handful in that picture

- brianb0422

That's what I'm talking about!

On an unrelated note, I'm watching the end of the 12/5/11 Pens game against Boston and nearly half of the seats in the first three rows behind the glass are empty with a couple minutes left.

Embarrassing.

- brianb0422

That's why I clicked the title actually

That's what I'm talking about!

On an unrelated note, I'm watching the end of the 12/5/11 Pens game against Boston and nearly half of the seats in the first three rows behind the glass are empty with a couple minutes left.

Embarrassing.
- the-mitch-wilsons

Gotta beat the traffic!

Gotta beat the traffic!
- brianb0422

Yeah, who's interested in a possible comeback against a Boston team on a 13-0-1 roll with Seguin, Chara, Lucic squaring off against James Neal and Malkin, among others.

Beat the traffic!

I think that might be my new slogan going forward, thanks Brian.

(It's better then that rally song the Washington Capitals had in 24/7)

Yeah, who's interested in a possible comeback against a Boston team on a 13-0-1 roll with Seguin, Chara, Lucic squaring off against James Neal and Malkin, among others.

Beat the traffic!

I think that might be my new slogan going forward, thanks Brian.

(It's better then that rally song the Washington Capitals had in 24/7)
- the-mitch-wilsons

That's what happens when you price "meat and potato" people out of those seats and replace them with sushi eaters.

-- Think the NHL is going badly? Business TV channel, CNBC, sports a “Fiscal Cliff Countdown" ticker, down to the day, hour, minute and second. At least we all can deduce the deadline for the U.S. budget.



Awesome

CNN must be so pissed they didn't come up with that first.

Duh! Crosby has been a very large part of the problem. I assume the strong Penguin contingent has something to do with trying to get his thinking realigned.

Duh! Crosby has been a very large part of the problem. I assume the strong Penguin contingent has something to do with trying to get his thinking realigned.
- spatso

Or.... Crosby's strong relationship with his ownership group has improved the tone of the negotiations.

But go ahead and hate....

- brianb0422

Lunch time!!! Cya!!

Or.... Crosby's strong relationship with his ownership group has improved the tone of the negotiations.

But go ahead and hate....
- madmike71

I don't have any hostility towards Crosby or the Penguins. I do believe the NHLPA used Crosby in a manner that was highly destructive to his image. I believe that there are two major rehabilitations taking place today. One is to heal the image of Crosby as an international hockey persona and all the Pittsburgh delegation is deeply vested in that enterprise. The other is trying to soften the image of a couple of hard owners, Jeremy Jacobs in particular.

I don't have any hostility towards Crosby or the Penguins. I do believe the NHLPA used Crosby in a manner that was highly destructive to his image. I believe that there are two major rehabilitations taking place today. One is to heal the image of Crosby as an international hockey persona and all the Pittsburgh delegation is deeply vested in that enterprise. The other is trying to soften the image of a couple of hard owners, Jeremy Jacobs in particular.
- spatso

How did they use him in a destructive manner?

I don't have any hostility towards Crosby or the Penguins. I do believe the NHLPA used Crosby in a manner that was highly destructive to his image. I believe that there are two major rehabilitations taking place today. One is to heal the image of Crosby as an international hockey persona and all the Pittsburgh delegation is deeply vested in that enterprise. The other is trying to soften the image of a couple of hard owners, Jeremy Jacobs in particular.
- spatso

Talk about going off the deep end and inventing fantasy. How exactly did the PA use Crosby in a manner that was highly destructive to his image?

I don't have any hostility towards Crosby or the Penguins. I do believe the NHLPA used Crosby in a manner that was highly destructive to his image. I believe that there are two major rehabilitations taking place today. One is to heal the image of Crosby as an international hockey persona and all the Pittsburgh delegation is deeply vested in that enterprise. The other is trying to soften the image of a couple of hard owners, Jeremy Jacobs in particular.
- spatso

How will he ever recover from such a tarnished image? Oh my.

I don't have any hostility towards Crosby or the Penguins. I do believe the NHLPA used Crosby in a manner that was highly destructive to his image. I believe that there are two major rehabilitations taking place today. One is to heal the image of Crosby as an international hockey persona and all the Pittsburgh delegation is deeply vested in that enterprise. The other is trying to soften the image of a couple of hard owners, Jeremy Jacobs in particular.
- spatso

Toews hurt his image IMO. Crosby issued ultra vanilla statements the entire process. Never once attacked owners or made controversial statements.

Toews hurt his image IMO. Crosby issued ultra vanilla statements the entire process. Never once attacked owners or made controversial statements.
- Gunner Staal

http://www.thestar.com/sp...eting-with-owners-tuesday



“Over the past few weeks, Crosby, Burkle and Lemieux have privately discussed plans to bridge the gap between players and owners,” a player said. Citing sources, the paper said all three had grown frustrated with the lack of progress.

“Crosby also will not break ranks with the players’ union, but his objective over the past week has been to establish common ground among players who have lost trust in NHL ownership and management as a whole,” sources said.


What a jerk.

I just hope this thing gets resolved, don't care if it's Crosby/Lemieux or whoever spearheading the movement towards resolution. Curious, though : if it were Ovechkin/Leonsis at the forefront, how would you guys feel ?

Toews hurt his image IMO. Crosby issued ultra vanilla statements the entire process. Never once attacked owners or made controversial statements.
- Gunner Staal

That's what I don't understand.... I've heard every statement Crosby has made and I didn't hear anything that was remotely controversial. Just like you say, it's been his usual vanilla comments. Every word was guarded. I'm amazed how people can just make this stuff up.....

I just hope this thing gets resolved, don't care if it's Crosby/Lemieux or whoever spearheading the movement towards resolution. Curious, though : if it were Ovechkin/Leonsis at the forefront, how would you guys feel ?
- MadCap2008

I wouldnt be as confident it would get done, but wouldnt care who is leading the charge to bridge the gap to be honest.

I just hope this thing gets resolved, don't care if it's Crosby/Lemieux or whoever spearheading the movement towards resolution. Curious, though : if it were Ovechkin/Leonsis at the forefront, how would you guys feel ?
- MadCap2008

This would matter why?

That's what I don't understand.... I've heard every statement Crosby has made and I didn't hear anything that was remotely controversial. Just like you say, it's been his usual vanilla comments. Every word was guarded. I'm amazed how people can just make this stuff up.....
- madmike71

I'm not. You get used to it after a while.

This would matter why?
- canadianpenfan

It shouldn't matter, but I think it was offered up here that some (i.e. Crosby/Pens haters) might prefer a lost season to a resolution facilitated by Crosby/Pens. Just curious as to whether there were any who would feel the same way about a couple of guys who seem to be universally hated by Pens fans.